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for the vice presidential debates' candidates on thursday. joe biden versus paul ryan. who do you think is going to do well? >> i love them both. i know them both very well. they're both good blue collar catholics. but it's going to be ryan. no doubt about it. listen, joe biden right now is the republican secret weapon. this past week he talked about the fact that the past four years have been brutal for the middle class, who's been buried under obama leadership. then he promised a trillion-dollar tax increase a couple of days ago. we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the best of luck. >> and joe biden is a great man and we wish him well, and we hope he keeps talking a lot. >> that's your "morning joe" political wrap. >> and you can catch joe and mika weekdays at 6:00 a.m. eastern. with more now, here's lester. >>> they mentioned the latest unemployment numbers. is the economy really recovering? we're here with audio look inside the numbers. help me understand t
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